U-DRAG RACE: Shelby GT500 vs. Dodge Challenger Black Ghost | Quarter Mile, Handling & More!
Jul 30, 2023
U-DRAG RACE: Shelby GT500 vs. Dodge Challenger Black Ghost | Quarter Mile, Handling & More!
For everything U-Drags, visit our NEW webpage - http://edmunds.com/udrags U-Drags is our series of down-and-back drag races that allow us to incorporate a standing quarter mile, handling, and a rolling start all in one race. In this episode, it’s a battle of high-horsepower American muscle as our long-term Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 takes on the Dodge Challenger Black Ghost. Head to the video above to find out the results! Dodge Challenger pricing \u0026 review: https://edmu.in/3OiNHhA Ford Shelby GT500 pricing \u0026 review: https://edmu.in/3NtoqyZ 00:00 Intro 00:25 The Numbers 01:24 Race 1 Prep 03:13 Race 1 05:25 Race 2 Prep 06:19 Race 2 08:54 Best Numbers Recap 09:42 U-Drags Leaderboard 10:03 Black Ghost In-Car Run 10:51 GT500 In-Car Run 11:29 Edmunds’ Take Subscribe to Edmunds https://www.youtube.com/user/edmundsv … for the latest car news, car reviews, car comparisons, car shopping and advice. Visit us! https://www.edmunds.com
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0 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
1.97 -> [SCREECHING TIRES]
2.95 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER:
Whoo, whoo, whoo!
5.91 -> Hi, I'm Alistair,
that's Jonathan.
8.79 -> This is the Dodge
Challenger SRT Black Ghost,
12.87 -> and that is Edmunds much
loved Shelby Mustang GT500.
17.37 -> And this is Edmunds U-Drags.
19.47 -> Let's get on with it.
20.55 -> [THEME MUSIC]
22.84 ->
24.96 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Well,
isn't this exciting?
26.79 -> We have one of only
300 Black Ghosts.
29.43 -> [ENGINE REVVING]
30.87 -> Packing 807 horses, 707
torques, is a hefty 4,500 pounds
36.18 -> and is front wheel drive.
37.98 -> Relax, I'm kidding!
39.54 -> But we also have our
legendary Edmunds own Shelby--
42.21 -> [ENGINE REVVING]
43.59 -> --which will be hitting
back with 760 horsepower,
46.99 -> weighs in at under 4,200 pounds,
has 625 pounds feet of torque,
50.95 -> and is also rear wheel drive.
53.6 -> Don't forget to check out the
Shelby in this race, this race,
56.14 -> this race, and this race.
57.37 -> These two are going head to
head on the Edmunds U-Drag
59.62 -> track, which starts with
a quarter mile drag,
61.57 -> then it's hard on the brakes and
into a 180 degree turnaround.
64.6 -> Then they power
back start finish.
66.28 -> At the end of the first
run, to keep it fair,
69.28 -> we'll swap drivers and lanes
and go back and do it again.
72.78 -> Look, we can only do U-Drags
if you like and subscribe,
75.51 -> so won't you do us a kindness
and hit those buttons.
78.84 -> And visit edmunds.com/udrags
for everything else.
81.96 -> All right, all right, let's go.
84.39 -> I am in our long-term
Shelby GT500.
88.47 -> I love this car.
89.46 -> It's got the power.
90.75 -> I've got some super sticky
Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires.
94.53 -> Thank you, Tire Rack, for
getting us those spares.
96.63 -> We picked up a nail earlier.
98.31 -> So we got some freshies.
99.48 -> We burned off the mold release.
100.83 -> And that thing has
a lot of horsepower,
102.45 -> has more horsepower, but I think
this car just puts everything
105.03 -> together so much nicer.
106.44 -> Launch control is
really easy to do.
108.13 -> It's essentially if you
put it in track mode,
111.27 -> you can see an LC
on the dash, which
114.84 -> says it's primed and
ready for launch control.
117.81 -> And then all you do
is just two pedal it,
120.33 -> left foot on the brake,
floor the accelerator
122.91 -> with the right foot, and
it'll hold the engine RPM
126.03 -> at the preset limit.
128.1 -> So 1,500 seems to be a sweet
spot for our conditions right
132.88 -> now, as well as
our track surface.
136.37 -> So let's just hope it
gets off the line better
138.31 -> than that thing.
139.09 -> I know it's going to
stop and corner better,
141.13 -> so it's just a
matter of horsepower
143.35 -> when it comes down to it.
144.43 -> Let's find out.
145.18 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: So, how do
you launch a Challenger Black
147.95 -> Ghost?
148.45 -> Honestly, with difficulty.
149.75 -> But we'll come to
that in a moment.
151.21 -> In terms of setup, we've
gone into the SRT dashboard.
154.3 -> I'm in custom mode.
155.32 -> I've gone for track
for everything.
157.09 -> That includes the
807 horsepower.
159.7 -> But for suspension,
we're not in track,
161.38 -> we're in sport, because this
is a pretty bumpy surface.
163.9 -> And thankfully,
track is so brutal,
165.58 -> that you end up
breaking traction.
167.26 -> Then we're going
into launch control
169.45 -> and we're dialing
up just 1,000 RPM.
171.82 -> This thing's got so much power.
173.35 -> Rear wheel drive, of course,
that it can light things
175.87 -> up very quickly indeed.
176.83 -> And if you're wondering why
I'm sweating like crazy,
179 -> I haven't got the
air conditioning on,
180.58 -> because I'm using the chiller
to cool the intercooler.
183.73 -> So 1,000 RPM, left foot
on the brake, right foot
187.45 -> hard on the gas, release
the brake, and away we go.
190.7 -> This should be epic.
192.25 -> Let's go.
193.5 -> [MUSIC PLAYING]
195.83 ->
198.17 -> - 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
203.36 -> [CAR ENGINES ROARING]
205.27 ->
210.17 -> An equal start, but he's gone.
211.83 -> [LAUGHS]
213.77 ->
217.67 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Oh,
man, that never gets old.
220.7 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
222.63 ->
230.82 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: Come on,
brake, brake, brake, brake.
235.41 -> [SCREECHING TIRES]
238.79 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Here
we go, here we go.
240.88 -> Power on out!
242.87 -> Here we go, see ya.
245.24 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: He's just
got so much more grip.
248.77 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Whoo, whoo, whoo!
250.23 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: And he's
gone over that blue oval.
252.48 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Power.
255.17 -> [MUSIC PLAYING]
257.65 ->
264.13 -> And that's how you do it.
267.17 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: Oh!
268.1 -> Well, Jonathan, I
think you just had me.
271.7 -> You just got more
traction off the line,
274.46 -> more braking, more cornering.
276.34 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: I mean,
really the only thing
278.3 -> I don't have more
of is horsepower.
280.18 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: I actually got
my braking pretty much spot on.
282.8 -> It's not easy to get back
onto the gas on this,
285.32 -> because it's not like
a super smooth input.
287.54 -> So you go from trying to
pick up, trying to pick up,
289.81 -> and then suddenly, it
comes in with a dollop,
291.68 -> then you get a little
bit of oversteer,
293.31 -> and that probably cost me a
little bit of forward momentum,
296.06 -> as well.
296.9 -> I mean, it's still great fun.
298.19 -> And it sounds awesome
and all the rest of it,
300.06 -> but this is a muscle
car and that's
302.99 -> a sports car that also
does muscle car stuff.
305.07 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: So it's kind
of the best of both worlds.
307.49 -> It does muscle car sounds, like
it's such the complete package.
311.87 -> It's kind of incredible
that this thing exists.
315.65 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: I think
we need to swap cars.
317.57 -> I really think you're going to
feel the difference between 760
320.54 -> and 807 horsepower.
322.04 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: It's
going to feel like losing.
324.08 ->
329.2 -> All right, we swapped cars.
330.58 -> I am in the Challenger
Black Ghost.
334.3 -> I love the way this thing looks.
335.84 -> I love the power that
the engine makes.
338.44 -> I'm going to use
the launch control.
340.1 -> So let's hope this thing
can pull out a win.
341.93 -> I'm really rooting for it.
343.42 -> The Challenger's a
really cool vehicle.
345.82 -> It's just not as modern
feeling as that Shelby.
349.18 -> But let's go.
350 -> Let's give it our best.
351.41 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: So
it's like slipping back
353.2 -> into a favored old suit.
354.94 -> Honestly, I absolutely
adore this car.
357.13 -> We've done 25,000 miles
in it since we bought it,
360.55 -> so we're pretty familiar
with everything.
362.26 -> I'm following exactly the
same setup as Jonathan.
365.02 -> So using the launch
control, left foot
367.81 -> on the brake, right foot
on the gas, everything
369.85 -> in track, apart
from the suspension,
371.35 -> which we soften off a little bit
because of the bumpy surface.
373.93 -> I should win, but I'm
feeling the pressure.
378.31 -> I'm ready.
378.81 -> [MUSIC PLAYING]
380.46 ->
383.74 -> - 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
389.79 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
392.12 -> Oh, I got a bad start!
393.37 -> It's bogged down a little bit.
395.42 -> But now I'm coming.
397.99 -> Now I'm coming.
398.87 -> Oh, man.
401.49 -> Come on!
404.2 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
406.58 ->
408.19 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: The Shelby!
409.4 ->
413.18 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
415.63 ->
417.91 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: Roll her in.
419.12 ->
421.94 -> Take her in on the brake,
she's a sports car.
423.81 ->
426.59 -> Power out.
427.96 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Come on!
429.04 ->
430.97 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: Goodbye!
432.02 -> Goodbye, Mr. Challenger!
435.27 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Despite the dodgy start,
437.02 -> I'm looking at the Shelby
leaving me for dead.
440.76 -> Oh!
441.26 ->
449.02 -> Good effort, but not enough.
452.3 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: Oh.
453.22 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Well, there we go.
456.11 -> How did that feel?
457.37 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: It's-- you
can drive it like a sports car.
458.69 -> It's like what we keep saying.
459.94 -> You've got so much
confidence on the brakes,
461.95 -> and then it's just
back on the power
463.84 -> it seems to just grip and go.
465.52 -> And I looked across as
I came out of the corner
468.25 -> and you were still
squabbling around the bend.
470.26 -> It's just such a cool car.
471.77 -> I wish-- I wish I could buy it.
473.44 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Actually,
that launch control,
475.44 -> I'm sorry I didn't mention
it, there is a bit of a beat.
478.04 -> So you have to just sort of
prepare yourself for that.
481 -> But it didn't really matter.
482.17 -> Like, I leapt out
ahead, but it wasn't--
486.49 -> it was hardly any time
before I saw you coming up
488.65 -> and just, I mean, you were gone.
490.03 -> Like, it looks like you have
more horsepower than I do.
492.38 -> I don't know.
492.7 -> It's not grip at that point.
493.9 -> I'm hooked up.
494.8 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: Yeah, I
also forgot about the beat.
496.97 -> We've launched this
enough, and then
498.61 -> I didn't want to be accused
of jumping the start,
500.65 -> and I felt pretty
confident to start with.
502.4 -> But yeah, it's strange.
504.46 -> I think some of
it's the gearbox.
505.84 -> You've just got such a
nice double clutch gearbox
508.49 -> in this Shelby.
509.78 -> And it just keeps pulling.
513.06 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Yeah,
you're right about that.
515.06 -> The gearshifts here
are like seamless,
518.15 -> whereas with this gearbox,
it feels like you just
520.46 -> got your torque converter.
521.81 -> Like, I mean, I'm sure it's
more advanced than that.
524.12 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: No, it's
a one dimensional car,
526.12 -> but it's a pretty
fine dimension.
527.72 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Well said, sir.
529.48 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: It's so good.
530.73 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: It's so good.
532.02 ->
534.5 -> How about we check out the
peak performance numbers
536.62 -> by these two beautiful puppies?
539.02 -> The quickest 0 to 60
goes to the Shelby's 3.8,
541.93 -> a full second ahead of the
Black Ghost's best time.
544.66 -> And the quarter mile that
was the Shelby again,
547.12 -> with an 11.7 at 128.9, smacking
the Challenger's 12.6 at 123.1.
553.84 -> At the turn, the
Black Ghost Pirelli P0
556.6 -> stuck around to the
tune of 1.14 Gs.
559.3 -> Pretty good.
560.65 -> But the Shelby's Michelin
Pilot Sport Cup 2s gripped even
563.71 -> harder at 1.35 G's!
566.89 -> And at the finish line, huh, if
you've been paying attention,
569.99 -> you already know
this one by now.
571.42 -> The Ford's best was 33.2
at 143.3 miles an hour,
575.47 -> while the Dodge did
it in 35.2 at 135,
579.19 -> making the Dodge go, boo.
582.36 -> And now it's time to see what
these four-wheeled wonders end
585.3 -> up on the Edmunds
U-Drags leaderboard.
587.17 -> Remember, each car's quickest
run goes on the leaderboard,
589.68 -> regardless of race pairing.
591.03 -> The Challenger
Black Ghost muscles
592.71 -> in between our Corvette
Stingray and the Subaru BRZ
595.17 -> with its best time of
35.2 at 135 miles an hour.
598.95 -> The Shelby couldn't improve
on its previous best run,
601.32 -> so it stays put.
603.09 -> Now let's check on our
little video data thingy.
606.64 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
608.85 -> Come on!
609.57 -> Let's go, let's go!
611.79 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
613.64 ->
642.43 -> Oh, it's good effort.
647.33 -> Good effort, but not enough.
650.48 ->
655.48 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: Oh,
I got a bad start.
657.1 -> Bogged down a little bit.
658.24 -> But now I'm coming.
659.59 -> Now I'm coming!
661.47 -> Come on.
663.38 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
665.77 ->
670.54 -> Roll her in.
671.8 -> Take her in on the brakes,
she's a sports car.
675.02 -> Power out.
678.48 -> Goodbye!
679.5 -> Goodbye, Mr. Challenger!
682.1 -> Despite the dodgy start.
684.9 -> [CAR ENGINE ROARING]
687.36 ->
688.34 -> Whoo!
689.82 -> So, we do actually read the
comments that you leave,
692.59 -> and we know that
you were desperate
694.05 -> for us to run our GT500
in U-Drags, so we finally
698.16 -> found some appropriate
opposition,
699.69 -> and it turned out pretty
much exactly as we expected,
701.95 -> Jonathan.
702.45 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Yeah, I
mean we knew that the Black
704.82 -> Ghost had a slight
power advantage,
706.64 -> but we didn't know how
that would actually
708.39 -> play out in the real world.
709.83 -> Turns out, not very well.
712.68 -> The GT500 is such a
well-rounded package.
714.39 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: We said
it in the in-car commentary
716.56 -> that that is pure and
simple, a muscle car,
718.8 -> and a really
charming one at that.
720.3 -> This is basically
a muscle car that
722.49 -> doubles as a pretty
impressive sports car.
724.98 -> The way that it brakes,
the way that it grips,
726.93 -> the way that it steers,
the way that it changes
729.68 -> gear, actually, as well.
730.68 -> It's just such an
accomplished car.
732.72 -> And jumping from to that, it's
like stepping into an entirely
735.96 -> different world.
736.63 -> There's so much more
confidence in the Ford.
738.3 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: If you're
looking for a traditional, more
740.19 -> traditional muscle
car, then I think
742.05 -> you're going to
fall more in love
743.43 -> with that, because that is
just like another beast.
746.65 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: It just-- and
it still looks very, very cool.
749.23 -> JONATHAN ELFALAN: Yeah.
749.95 -> ALISTAIR WEAVER: We cannot
devise the U-drags formula,
752.26 -> because it was losing drag
races and we thought that it
754.75 -> massively undersold
its true potential.
757.31 -> So this was almost
part of the germ
759.55 -> of an idea, the genesis
of the U-drags format,
761.93 -> and we're delighted
to finally run it.
763.51 -> But now, after 25,000 miles,
we are about to sell it.
767.15 -> So if anybody wants
it, we're open to--
770.68 -> we're open to offers.
771.76 -> We're all going to go away
and cry when it leaves,
774.22 -> but it's been an amazing
car, and we've loved it.
776.8 -> So on that rather somber and sad
note, we will bid you farewell.
781.03 -> Check out edmunds.com/udrags,
udrags with an S,
784.45 -> for all the latest
U-Drag information.
786.04 -> And while you're there,
check out everything else
788.08 -> that Edmunds has to offer.
789.64 -> And of course, please
subscribe to this channel.
792.44 -> That's it for now.
793.37 -> See you next time,
minus the Shelby.
796.5 ->
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4--mB_cWKaY