2023 Nissan Z Vs Toyota Supra | The Fast & Fun Two-seaters
2023 Nissan Z Vs Toyota Supra | The Fast & Fun Two-seaters
Two sports cars go head to head in a battle for six-cylinder supremacy.
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An all-new manual-transmission Supra is on the way, but for now, we’re comparing the slick-shifting automatic model against a brand-new competitor: the 2023 Nissan Z. Can the Z’s 400-horsepower V6 overwhelm the Supra’s turbocharged 3.0-liter straight-six? Cliff Atiyeh takes both cars on New England’s back roads to find out.
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Presenter: Clifford Atiyeh
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0:00 the 2023 Nissan Z and Toyota Supra
0:38 Z Exterior
2:18 Supra Exterior
3:32 Engines
4:06 Driving the Supra
9:23 Driving the Z
15:23 Inside the Supra
16:03 Inside the Z
17:13 Pricing and Verdict
Content
1.04 -> this is the comparison test i've wanted to run for
a long time nissan z toyota supra rear wheel drive
7.92 -> turbo v6s with about 400 horsepower only two
seats this is what these cars were in the 90s
14.24 -> and in 2022 they are back and looking better than
ever very bright too might i add now we're gonna
20 -> take both these cars on a nice drive compare them
we've done the standalone videos for both of them
25.28 -> but today these two are going to go head to head
and while you're comparison shopping sell your car
31.84 -> on car gurus in minutes you get a cash offer from
dealers nationwide you like it they pick up your
36.96 -> car they pay you any good sports car should look
good from this side you got the long hood the low
43.28 -> shoulder line and that rakish fastback design what
really accentuates the z is this two-tone paint
49.2 -> you got the ikazuchi yellow and this all polished
black just a little bit of silver here and you got
54.64 -> the old retro z logo there too in case you didn't
know what you were looking at but you definitely
58.96 -> do everyone knows this is a nissan z from the
front it's more 240z from the 70s the rear
65.6 -> nissan 300zx from the 90s and here it's all z
from the 2000s and 2010s that's all a pretty good
73.52 -> thing because nissan didn't really need to change
that much of it and the more i look at this car
79.2 -> the more i'm reminded of classic sports cars like
jaguars and even aston martins i'm going that
84.56 -> high because nissan has a great silhouette here
and that's what you really want in a sports car
90.08 -> this is the performance trim which comes with the
upgraded brakes that you see here with the red
94.48 -> calipers and these forged wheels made by rays now
forged wheels are lighter and stronger than cast
100.48 -> alloy rims and they're usually very expensive so
the fact that they're on the z for just over 50k
105.92 -> pretty impressive the headlights have this
football shape to them very unique among all cars
111.2 -> and that's not a simple thing to do when everyone
has led running lamps but the z looks very unique
116.96 -> you get this slotted grille up in the front which
is all rectangular and upright and then this nice
121.44 -> domed hood even though there's really no reason
for a giant dome there well it looks cool the rear
127.84 -> is just as distinctive as the front that two-tone
design carries over well you get this wide black
133.2 -> bar with these thin led tail lights a really
nice diffuser element and the silver exhaust tips
139.04 -> now i'm not going to complain when i get into a
rear-wheel drive brand new sports car but compared
143.68 -> to the z i will complain a little bit because
there just are some elements here that strike me
149.2 -> not in a good way like that that that it's all
plastic when they really should be air intakes
155.52 -> but when you look at it from a hole yeah it's an
interesting shape not quite as pretty but certain
161.2 -> elements stand out like this clamshell hood the
f1 style nose these oversized led lights that
167.28 -> look positively piercing at night gorgeous wheels
and brakes the stance is just perfect on this car
173.12 -> it really is from everything from the wheel wells
to the clearance you get these nice door handles
178.32 -> double bubble roof and this gorgeous looking
fender design it got the nice hips but there's
183.28 -> just certain elements like the way this piece
is tacked on this little edge here it's just
188.32 -> not the clean shape that the z is the back
of the supra also reminds me of an f1 car
194.24 -> below here is like an f1 style rain light
it's the reverse light the taillights are
198.72 -> really thin you got the ducktail spoiler built
into the hatch this rear diffuser again like
204.24 -> everything else in the car there's a lot of lines
there's a lot of complex things happening here
209.2 -> but it comes together better than you might
think the z has a v6 from the infiniti q60 coupe
215.6 -> it's a 3 liter design twin turbos 400
horsepower and 350 pound-feet of torque
221.92 -> it pulls really hard but it doesn't quite
sound as good as the supra the supra uses a
228.4 -> bmw engine three liter inline six turbocharged 382
horsepower and 368 pound-feet of torque and just
238.8 -> like every bmw that has this engine it's super
smooth it revs freely and it sounds fantastic
258.32 -> oh i love that sound i love the steering
feel i love the torque gosh the supra just
266.32 -> invites you in it teases you and it wants
you to keep pushing for more which i'll do
280.16 -> all that exhaust backfire it's not just the sound
in the theater it's just really in tune with how
286.56 -> you want to drive there's just one button
and one button only it's sport you press it
291.36 -> and everything just comes more alive it transforms
it and just to a louder more involved experience
299.68 -> and believe me it is
304.48 -> everywhere i'm placing the supra it just feels
more direct i feel like i have more control over
310.8 -> exactly where this car is pointed it feels more
nimble it does it dances around not to say that
319.52 -> the z is somehow this large heavy car it's
not but you can point the supra into turns
328.32 -> with a lot more confidence that you can in the z
332.64 -> and all that torque from this
turbo six they're both turbo sixes
337.04 -> but this is a bmw engine listen to that thing god
344.64 -> gosh this is what happens when you borrow an
engine from an engine company that's what bmw
351.36 -> does so no matter what you're gonna say
about the supra not having its own engine
356.56 -> its own chassis honestly yeah you can say
that it's not a pure supra but guess what
364.32 -> are you having fun it's a lie if you're saying
you're not having fun in a supra and the super
371.2 -> does calm down it rides pretty well it gets nice
and quiet but it's not quite as relaxing as the z
378.72 -> the super just feels easier to place on the road
it's just a hair smaller that's really nice for
385.12 -> handling it's not so great for visibility when
you want to see around you there's no 360 cameras
391.28 -> reversing this thing is a challenge but when
you're pointed straight and believe me not too
396.8 -> many people will be passing you in this car it's
really not something you'll be concerned about
404.4 -> i've driven the four-cylinder
supra and it's also pretty good
408.72 -> it is it costs a whole lot less it's more than
ten thousand dollars cheaper than this car
416.4 -> but you know it doesn't sound like this
422.64 -> no it does not it does not go this quickly either
and when you have a big motor like this in what is
429.12 -> really a small and lightweight car once you try
the faster version it's really hard to downgrade
439.6 -> oh it's just so good
442.96 -> if the supra is this good with an automatic
just think how great it's going to be with the
448 -> six-speed manual bmw doesn't offer that anymore
on their z4 they don't i love this automatic
455.76 -> it's great in every application that it's in the
zf-8 speed perfect can't say a bad thing about it
462.32 -> but a great manual transmission there's no
question that's gonna raise this car's profile
469.6 -> so when i drove the nissan z automatic
that automatic was short shifting
473.92 -> even in sport mode it just wanted to be it just
over idle when you let your foot off the gas it
479.76 -> just up shifted up shifted not this one this is
anticipating that i want to go a little quicker
486.4 -> but it never hangs on to the gear too long
490.56 -> plus i got the paddle shifters and it's just
as quick as if i'm shifting automatically
497.76 -> cars like this are great because they're very
quick but they're not too fast to get you into
503.28 -> too much trouble who am i kidding you will
get into a lot of trouble with the supra 3.0
512.96 -> when i first drove the supra a few years ago i
thought the handling was just a little unsettled
519.12 -> it just felt like it was going to bounce around
a bit but toyota has since tamed it they've just
525.2 -> made it a little more balanced overall so when
you chuck the car into a corner you don't feel
529.92 -> like it's going to fight you going the opposite
direction it still will do that if you really
534.56 -> want to play and hang the tail out on the track on
the road it just feels like it has that much more
540.96 -> grip where the z is just gets a little squiggly
you know these are powerful rear wheel drive
546.64 -> cars so having all the proper traction in every
situation is critical and the supra has more of it
557.04 -> yeah the brake pedal on the supra from the top
to the bottom of the pedal travel way better
575.04 -> the z just has a lot of response whether
it's six gears or nine on the automatic
582.56 -> you know it's a sports car
it moves it just hustles
590.56 -> there's a lightness to these controls
the steering is just super light
594.32 -> you just feel like there's a balance at the
limit though well the z does not quite stick
601.04 -> like that supra i do think it's the
tires these are bridgestone potenzas
606 -> very capable but there's just so much power
and torque being sent to these rear wheels that
612.32 -> you'll find yourself losing traction in situations
that you didn't think you should so i think
618.08 -> it just needs a pair of michelins or something
something a little better than these factory tires
622.56 -> but for any potential z customer that's an easy
upgrade there's plenty of shove with this engine
630.56 -> and all the gears it's easy to just keep up you
have to work a little harder because the super has
636 -> that really fast shifting eight-speed automatic
so you got to work on your gear changes but
641.04 -> it feels good the clutch is nice and light the
shifter has a very deliberate throw you got to
646.48 -> throw it in but it's not notchy not like
bmw shifters although i like those shifters
652 -> some people complain about them all that
stuff is really subjective when you get in
655.52 -> and you're used to these throws and they're
pretty short it's just good mechanical feel
662.24 -> now not everything about the z feels so mechanical
because some of the sound is just missing so even
668.4 -> if i just drop it in neutral and just like that's
nice but it's all intake there's no exhaust
674.56 -> because of noise regulations they put the sport
muffler only on the automatic transmission so i
680.96 -> reviewed that car watched that video after this
one listened to it there's a clear difference
687.68 -> now nissan says they're probably going to
offer a nismo sport muffler with the manual
692.8 -> or they figure that most z owners will just
rip off the stock muffler and put on whatever
698.4 -> they feel sounds the best but i think they could
have done more with say an active exhaust where
704.08 -> it's nice and quiet like this but then when you
want to get on it that valve should be opening
710.24 -> and there's no valve to open on this car
that's my only complaint with the sound
715.76 -> so for anyone who thinks this is not a fair fight
a supra manual with that inline six cylinder
722.08 -> engine is coming out later in 2022 that's
going to be directly comparable to this car
729.6 -> and if you want the automatic z it's a nine
speed there's an eight speed on the supra so
734.32 -> these two cars could not be more
closely matched they really couldn't
740.48 -> one very helpful feature automatic rev matching
nissan was first first in the whole industry to
746.8 -> do that with a manual transmission and they
keep doing it with the new z so you press a
752.16 -> little button here right next to the shifter drop
it from third to second that's the car doing that
756.8 -> that's not me and any gear provided it's not too
high it'll perfectly do it every single time so
763.92 -> as awesome as it is to double clutch yourself and
blip the throttle which i absolutely love having
770.24 -> that option is especially good when you're around
really tight corners want to break and don't want
775.44 -> to heel toe or if you're like me you don't
really ace it every single time this car will
782.48 -> what's great about a modern sports car is that it
doesn't have to feel like an old sports car it's
788.16 -> not loud it's not uncomfortable the wind noise
is very minimal so is even the tire noise on here
795.92 -> these cars are practically grand tours like
they're not luxury cars by any means they're also
801.12 -> not bare bones so in this price category i got all
the comforts i could want in here and i don't feel
807.92 -> like i'm tired while i'm driving it nor do i feel
like i'm cramped inside the z the super is another
814 -> story the steering is just nice and light i wish
it had a little bit more feedback at the limit you
820.24 -> kind of don't know what the tires are doing but
if you just don't drive like that drive normally
826.4 -> just cruise around i'm looking at water right
now off the coast of portsmouth new hampshire do
832.24 -> i need to be carving every apex in this car no
i just want to enjoy myself z lets you do that
840.56 -> brakes feel good even though this is the
performance package with the upgraded brakes
844.8 -> i don't like the pedal feel like i do in the supra
848.32 -> suspension is really nicely sorted now nissan
has increased the chassis rigidity by about 10
854.16 -> that's not a whole lot they didn't have to do
that much with this chassis it's also a little
860.4 -> heavier than the before but let's put it this way
at around 35 3600 pounds that qualifies as a light
867.92 -> car in 2022 unless you're going for a miata but a
miata is so much smaller and so much less powerful
878.72 -> there's a miata you can't really drive like this
886.32 -> to me a car like the nissan z is becoming rarer
and rarer with every model year for brand new
893.36 -> cars that you can get out of the showroom they're
not making them quite like this anymore they're
899.12 -> really not electric is great hybrids are great i'm
not gonna knock them but for an analog experience
906.72 -> in a modern car you just don't have the choices
you did anymore and the fact that nissan is still
912.64 -> making this car just like they were 20 years ago
even 30 years ago i think we should celebrate that
923.76 -> the toyota has a tight cabin but all of the
materials are really first class including
928.32 -> this carbon fiber right here in the console now if
you've been in any late model bmw you'll be very
933.04 -> familiar in here there's nothing toyota at all now
it's not the newest idrive infotainment version on
939.44 -> here but it is a touch screen and it's superior to
a lot of toyota infotainment systems those systems
945.12 -> have been so old they're only becoming updated
just now and even now they're not as good as this
951.52 -> the supra has a more premium feel and that's
not because this is the premium supra trim
956.4 -> it just is better fit better finish the
materials are nicer after all it is made by bmw
963.84 -> the z has a very familiar interior because it's
not all new like the supras but what you get this
969.84 -> retro looking design nice materials hip hugging
seats overall you do feel special the z uses older
977.04 -> parts from older z's but that doesn't really
bother me so much because they've redesigned
981.52 -> the entire interior to look very modern bully
digital instrument panel that's reconfigurable
987.04 -> unlike the supra i got a nice big screen here
yeah it's a bit of an older system but there's
991.68 -> still wireless apple carplay in android auto i got
my manual shifter here so that i always love and
997.92 -> three analog gauges for the turbo and the
volt meter i don't really know why you need
1001.76 -> to use that on a regular basis but overall
the materials and the design are pretty good
1008 -> both of these cars are special inside
that's because there's only two seats
1012.4 -> they're true sports cars there's no reason for
a dinky little back seat where you can't put
1016.56 -> anything it's all about fun if you're looking
for a true sports car look at what you're getting
1022.4 -> rear-wheel drive around 400 horsepower available
manual transmissions a price tag in the mid-50s
1029.44 -> and only two seats these are your only two
choices the z tops out at about 53 the supra
1036.24 -> 57 objectively the supra is the better car here
the powertrain the chassis it's all just dialed in
1044.16 -> from the moment that you start the engine to the
minute that you turn it off and you step out by
1048.8 -> the numbers excellent but if there's a sports car
that i want to look at every day for the next 10
1054.32 -> plus years it's the nissan z it's just a simple
and clean design it doesn't go out of style and i
1060.56 -> think if nissan just slapped on some better summer
tires and fixed that exhaust they'd have the clear
1065.68 -> winner here but what do you guys think because
these guards are so evenly matched they're both
1070.32 -> pretty excellent cars but you tell us and keep
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