Robert Downey Jr. Breaks Down His Career, from 'Iron Man' to 'Oppenheimer' | Vanity Fair
Robert Downey Jr. Breaks Down His Career, from 'Iron Man' to 'Oppenheimer' | Vanity Fair
Robert Downey Jr. walks us through his legendary career, discussing his roles in ‘Pound,’ ‘Less Than Zero,’ ‘Chaplin,’ ‘Kiss Kiss Bang Bang,’ ‘Zodiac,’ ‘Iron Man,’ ‘The Judge,’ ‘Oppenheimer’ and more.\r
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OPPENHEIMER is in theaters July 21, 2023, https://www.oppenheimermovie.com/ \r
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SAG-AFTRA members are currently on strike; as part of the strike, union actors are not promoting their film and TV projects. This video was conducted prior to the strike.\r
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Director: Adam Lance Garcia\r
Director of Photography: Brad Wickham\r
Editor: Cory Stevens\r
Guest: Robert Downey Jr.\r
Producer: Frank Cosgriff\r
Line Producer: Romeeka Powell\r
Associate Producer: Rafael Vasquez\r
Production Manager: Natasha Soto-Albors\r
Production Coordinator: Jamal Colvin\r
Talent Booker: Meredith Judkins\r
Camera Operator: Chloe Ramos\r
Audio Engineer: Lily van Leeuwen\r
Production Assistant: Rowmel Findley\r
Post Production Coordinator: Jovan James\r
Supervising Editor: Kameron Key\r
Assistant Editor: Justin Symonds\r
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00:00 “It never will get better than it is right now.” \r
00:40 Pound \r
01:47 Less Than Zero \r
03:24 Chaplin\r
06:15 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang \r
08:24 Zodiac \r
10:54 Iron Man \r
14:01 The Judge \r
15:23 Sr. \r
18:23 Oppenheimer
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1.8 -> if I could talk back to that uh 17 year
5.4 -> old who was doing regional theater in
7.14 -> Rochester I would say guess what it's
9.42 -> going to go pretty well it's going to be
11.28 -> a lot of ups and downs I'm not going to
12.54 -> tell you the specifics because you get
14.16 -> too scared but it turns out in a good
15.78 -> place and it never will get better than
18.3 -> it is right now so just appreciate where
20.699 -> you are three two one
27.119 -> laughs
30.67 -> [Music]
32.94 -> I'm Robert Downey Jr and this is the
35.1 -> timeline of my career
36.82 -> [Music]
44.94 -> hair on your balls I'm afraid to look
47.7 -> pound is a film that my dad got the
50.28 -> financing for I think the investors
53.28 -> thought he was making a documentary
55.68 -> about pounds and animal shelters and
58.739 -> then he said no no it's a it's a
60.42 -> live-action thing and I'm casting people
62.039 -> to play the dogs
63.96 -> next thing you know we're shooting it
65.7 -> and these character actors of all shapes
68.82 -> and sizes are playing various uh dogs
71.88 -> and then I played a puppy my earliest
75.54 -> memories are of cameras being on sets
78.479 -> being on stages being on location to the
81.84 -> point where it almost seemed like life
83.82 -> was kind of making a movie and kind of
86.759 -> being a kid at the same time because my
89.159 -> folks were mostly underground kind of
91.2 -> counterculture it was never like I saw
94.08 -> later on like my friends like a Jason
96.36 -> Bateman who literally grew up in the
98.939 -> high-end you know multi-camera TV show
101.52 -> stuff our stuff was really weird so
104.1 -> there was always something that felt a
105.36 -> little bit outsider-ish about it
107.04 -> remember the infamous coffee cup oh no
110.34 -> don't please oh yes how to seduced Blair
113.399 -> Without Really Trying
115.14 -> there it is there's a smile it's nice to
117.6 -> see it again
118.56 -> I'm cast with Andrew McCarthy James
120.78 -> Spader Jamie Gertz and there's a scene
122.88 -> on a tennis court where I'm asking my
125.159 -> dad if I can come home and it was a kind
127.079 -> of an impactful bit of a challenging
128.88 -> scene to do my first day shooting and
131.039 -> the director Merrick knievska who I
133.14 -> argue is one of the the greats I ever
135.36 -> got to work with said everybody be
137.459 -> absolutely quiet he's trying to
138.959 -> concentrate and I felt like he told
140.34 -> everybody hey this is important and then
142.68 -> I was like oh my God I guess I guess I
144.48 -> better concentrate and I just thought
146.94 -> for a quarter second about what's it
149.22 -> like for All Fathers and Sons mothers
151.56 -> and daughters are they ever going to
152.819 -> connect can they ever understand each
154.319 -> other and just having that thought in my
155.94 -> head gave me this springboard and it
157.8 -> wound up being a kind of a pivotal day
160.26 -> where if it was the first time I felt I
162.12 -> was taken seriously in a dramatic way I
164.16 -> just needed to be my father for one
165.66 -> goddamn day just
168.78 -> just help me
175.62 -> I can't tell when I
177.9 -> when I'm telling the truth
181.379 -> no
183.18 -> if anything less than zero showed me
186.239 -> that there was a cultural relevance to
188.28 -> filmmaking I'd seen it uh in The
191.58 -> Breakfast Club and a bunch of other
193.5 -> films and there was something about our
195.3 -> generation had some sort of valid
197.64 -> statement to make in the filmmakers and
199.739 -> artists of that period and you felt like
202.08 -> maybe I could be one of those folks very
205.08 -> formal everybody
206.67 -> [Music]
217.58 -> chaplain was a absolute gift and a real
221.76 -> bear of a challenge for someone who's 25
225.299 -> when I started prepping to do it but
227.819 -> there were all these people that were
229.319 -> still around just barely still around
231.18 -> like Johnny Hutch who came from the
234.06 -> Benny Hill show and he knew the guy
237.18 -> who'd really done these choreographed
239.7 -> things at the Carno theater with
241.68 -> chaplain so he actually had access to
244.2 -> some of the books of really what the
246.239 -> choreography was or some of this stuff
247.92 -> and he drilled me incessantly for months
251.58 -> and months and months and then having
253.62 -> Attenborough Dickie Attenborough
255.54 -> directed he was like the Yoda of Cinema
258.239 -> and just the fact that he cast me
260.22 -> obviously was the endorsement and then
261.84 -> it was just this year process of
263.699 -> shooting it at a certain point I had a
265.44 -> one-way mirror
266.9 -> with a TV playing VHS tapes of his old
272.46 -> uh films and I would try to match up
275.16 -> where his face was in mine and literally
277.38 -> just mimic him for hours and hours over
280.139 -> a course of weeks and months I employed
282.32 -> every single way I I could try to show
285.72 -> up for that role
298.199 -> hmm
303.16 -> [Laughter]
308.3 -> when you're 25 and you're given the keys
312 -> to the kingdom you're going to probably
314.94 -> come out of Center maybe out of fear
317.34 -> maybe out of confidence and for me I at
320.52 -> that point not to boast but I was as
323.4 -> much of a chaplain expert as anyone
325.919 -> involved in the project and I was making
327.96 -> corrections to the things that were
329.82 -> factually and historically inaccurate to
332.039 -> which atmoset but puppet we're making a
335.1 -> film it's not a documentary I did learn
337.62 -> at that point though that it's hard to
339.72 -> tell a story any more interestingly than
342.06 -> the way it actually occurred so I was
344.58 -> saying right before Chapman did a film
346.68 -> called the kid with Jackie Coogan his
349.62 -> wife had had a miscarriage so that was
352.08 -> his way of healing from the trauma of
354.479 -> that loss he was like robot the audience
357 -> I was like it's too episodic we have to
358.5 -> make this admirent anyway uh you realize
361.32 -> you're not the director when you're not
363.72 -> directing but a great director will
366.06 -> incorporate all of your strong
369.12 -> um
369.72 -> associations and the things that you
371.759 -> feel are really important and find a way
373.259 -> to to help you get them into the
374.82 -> character
379.02 -> I didn't want him to come in and he
380.82 -> insisted I said you got to stay at home
382.38 -> but he doesn't listen to me such a
383.639 -> stupid son of a
387 -> killed him didn't I oh
394.69 -> [Music]
397.68 -> wow
399 -> sorry
400.86 -> hey good luck Kiss Kiss Bang Bang that
403.979 -> was a film shot entirely at night I
406.02 -> think there was one day shoot and one
408.24 -> split so the rest of the time we're
409.86 -> getting to work at sundown and we are
412.74 -> working all through the night every
414.539 -> night so Shane black is a night owl
416.639 -> Shane black is a legitimate genius and
420.12 -> he'd written what I thought was almost a
421.8 -> perfect script and then Val Kilmer and I
425.34 -> had kind of fallen into this good
427.259 -> repartee and at that point I'd never
429.96 -> played a character who was so overtly
432.919 -> not intelligent but lovable and I think
436.259 -> it was very freeing for me because I'd
438.479 -> hithertube and associated with these
440.46 -> kind of fast talking Smart Guys which
442.38 -> I'm not necessarily I've just had had
444.539 -> some experience doing it and Harry
446.4 -> Lockhart in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang he's
449.78 -> kind of a dummy and it was so freeing
453.24 -> for me what happens when they drag the
455.22 -> lake you think they'll find my pistol
456.72 -> Jesus look up idiots in the dictionary
459.66 -> you know what you'll find
460.8 -> a picture of me no the definition of the
463.74 -> word idiot which you are as far
466.139 -> as working with Val on Kiss Kiss Bang
468.3 -> Bang he's Val Kilmer it's vintage Val
471.12 -> Kilmer he comes in with such an kind of
474.36 -> off-center point of view on things and
477 -> yet he's playing the one who knows
478.68 -> everything and he's smart and he thinks
480.599 -> that Harry is kind of an idiot but they
483.24 -> become friends so I just found it so
486.3 -> delightful to be staying up all night
488.88 -> with valcomar shooting these ridiculous
491.34 -> scenes about these two oddballs that are
493.74 -> chasing this kind of uh my case in your
497.4 -> case that same case he's a really
499.74 -> sophisticated artist and I have nothing
502.5 -> but fond memories about Kiss Kiss Bang
504.539 -> Bang okay just one thing is it true they
507.18 -> got a print off the cup yeah they got a
509.699 -> partial in blood
511.379 -> that is not the publication all right
513.599 -> hey come on hey
516.24 -> it's me
517.32 -> did he say they got a print
518.53 -> [Music]
520.44 -> partial
521.76 -> working with David Fincher on zodiac was
524.88 -> a once in a lifetime opportunity he is
527.7 -> an absolute
529.399 -> master of this art form and I remember
532.98 -> also the subject matter is really really
534.959 -> intense
536.04 -> and so it wasn't like you know a you
539.76 -> know Fancy free set and because I knew
542.58 -> that this was something that was really
544.44 -> part of David's own history of his own
547.14 -> kind of contemplation of evil you're
549.54 -> trying to serve the the director
552.779 -> and be respectful of that but I I mean I
555 -> remember you know Ruffalo and Gyllenhaal
557.1 -> and I look at each other knowing we're
559.08 -> getting a real education in doing things
562.14 -> in an extremely disciplined way that
564.779 -> said when I watched the film there's a
566.7 -> lot of kind of like fun and lightness in
568.8 -> it which uh David Fincher always knows
571.26 -> how to capture it's just not he doesn't
573.3 -> lean into any sort of indulgence he's a
577.019 -> really disciplined guy and then the
578.519 -> crazy thing is David Fincher is your
580.56 -> best lunch date you could ever have he's
583.14 -> so fun he's so witty and yet when you
586.5 -> look at his work you know he doesn't
588.779 -> take himself seriously but boy does he
590.76 -> take his film seriously
595.86 -> that's the only place that word and that
597.48 -> symbol ever appeared together before the
599.04 -> letters
600.06 -> because she stole his logo off of what
601.92 -> I've been somebody who's killed 13. he
603.48 -> claims he's killed 13 people but which
604.92 -> ones can we actually confirm there's
606.36 -> three in Vallejo one in Berryessa the
608.22 -> cabbie that's it
611.76 -> Bobby you're almost disappointed working
614.459 -> with David Fincher you will learn that
616.32 -> you're more durable than you thought a
618.36 -> scene can devolve into where it just
620.1 -> feels really perfunctory and you're
622.019 -> you're kind of almost on an automatonic
624.6 -> mode but it doesn't matter because the
627.72 -> craft of trying to get things done like
630.72 -> there was a scene where he was trying to
631.98 -> get it done in one shot and we had to
633.66 -> have done 40 or 50 takes
635.88 -> and people were a little bit exasperated
638.58 -> he said down here come here do we have
639.959 -> it yet and I watched the takes and at
641.76 -> the end of it I said you want to use
642.839 -> this in one he goes yeah I go you know
644.459 -> he goes down he's right we don't have it
646.38 -> yet uh Delete all 40 of those takes and
648.6 -> we'll start again after lunch and
649.68 -> everyone looked at me okay
652.32 -> you know right is right
654.18 -> truth is
661.8 -> I am Iron Man no problem trusting John
665.22 -> Favreau uh his film is a Thora and Kiss
667.74 -> Kiss Bang Bang came out on the same
669.779 -> weekend and tanked and I think we were
671.94 -> both really hungry to try to
674.88 -> re-establish ourselves as a formidable
677.579 -> Duo albeit individually again just like
680.399 -> Attenborough his endorsement of me to
682.68 -> play that character and then Kevin feige
685.62 -> having the wherewithal to say okay bit
687.959 -> of a risk let's do it we like Risk wound
691.14 -> up being you know a life-changing 15
694.2 -> years what it's gonna be okay okay it's
697.38 -> gonna be okay I I'm gonna make this okay
700.92 -> oh okay you're gonna attach that okay
702.36 -> base plate and make sure
708.959 -> is that so hard that was fun anytime I
712.38 -> was with Jeff Bridges and maybe even
714.899 -> more so with Paltrow you just felt that
717.6 -> there was this chemistry where you
719.519 -> always kind of got the definitive
721.14 -> version of a scene whether it was
723.12 -> Loosely scripted or a little bit more
726.3 -> um prepared but there's a scene where
728.04 -> he's doing a weapons test and he says is
730.86 -> it better to be feared or respected is
732.36 -> it too much to ask for both and John and
734.279 -> I were literally writing that line for
736.62 -> line as we went along shooting it that
739.019 -> day
739.8 -> and I put on sunglasses because it was
742.74 -> all on cue cards it was that kind of
744.839 -> thing where you go it's more important
746.339 -> that we feel like we're just coming up
748.14 -> with this and we like it and there's no
750.72 -> trick we can't employ to cover the fact
753.959 -> that we're kind of making it up as we go
756.6 -> along but again because you have that
758.64 -> huge uh cluster bomb explosion in back
761.82 -> of him because the air remover kind of
763.5 -> pushed me forward and it was just one of
765.66 -> those days there was another moment
767.1 -> where Tony has escaped the cave and
769.139 -> essentially become Iron Man and he lands
771.3 -> in this kind of crater outside the cave
773.76 -> where it's being held and there was a
775.44 -> windstorm that day and we were trying to
777.3 -> get this taken it was very star
778.86 -> wars-esque in a way it was very
780.72 -> reminiscent of what John has wound up
782.82 -> doing since with Mandalorian and there
784.74 -> was just this moment where it's like the
786.42 -> storm this storm kind of settled and
789.24 -> everyone kind of looked at everyone we
790.68 -> were like let's get one more take and
792.54 -> that's the one that's in the film so it
794.639 -> even felt like sometimes the elements
796.62 -> themselves were conspiring to help us do
798.839 -> our best job every film was an art film
801.36 -> if you treat it that way and the most
804.24 -> important films can be garbage but it's
807.36 -> always about teams and Leadership and
810.54 -> partnership also that audiences evolve
813.36 -> really quickly like they'll assimilate a
816.3 -> new
817.32 -> kind of version of a genre and then
820.5 -> they'll phase out of it and you have to
822.18 -> keep meeting and exceeding their
824.279 -> expectations and I think that's where
826.38 -> you know now we're in such an
828.6 -> interesting spot because it's kind of
830.279 -> like anyone's game anticipating what
833.459 -> audiences will respond to next and I
835.62 -> think it has really put the Cinematic
838.32 -> and TV community on you know on point I
841.5 -> did what I thought
842.94 -> right
844.2 -> you know I didn't just graduate from law
845.94 -> school I graduated first in my class
847.5 -> good I was first in my class
850.68 -> I did really well Dad
852.6 -> you're welcome
855.06 -> David Dobkin I wanted to be in Fred
857.459 -> Claus and I had seen the Wedding
859.2 -> Crashers and I was like I love this
860.76 -> David Dobkin guy turns out we kind of
863.22 -> almost knew each other back in Upstate
865.38 -> New York back in the day and he'd had
867.779 -> this idea kind of a dramatization of a
871.68 -> version of how he had had this strained
874.56 -> relationship with his father and then we
876.72 -> started talking about great movies like
878.22 -> The Verdict is such a a rich
881.22 -> fertile Zone to to try to dig in you
885.6 -> know what was your reasoning
888.139 -> 180 days that's solid maybe to cooled
891.48 -> off maybe he doesn't kill hope maybe
893.639 -> we're not here
896.339 -> all the years you sat on that bench all
899.16 -> the people that stood before you the
900.959 -> legions the understanding the free ride
903.779 -> goes to Mark Blackwell
906.3 -> how do you explain that lapse in
907.86 -> judgment we're really fortunate and that
910.139 -> I had such good will for Warner Brothers
911.94 -> with the having done several Sherlock
914.82 -> films with them that they're like yeah
916.56 -> we don't know if this one's really a
918.48 -> fiscal win for us but we love the script
920.399 -> go shoot it and uh those days are over
922.92 -> it's just because the window is closing
924.959 -> a bit it seems
927.48 -> is there anything that you feel like you
930.3 -> need to process in relation to the
935.339 -> possibility of not seeing him again
938.699 -> I just don't know senior which is the
942.12 -> documentary I did about my pops with
944.94 -> Chris Smith and my long-suffering Mrs
948.06 -> Susan Downey started off as kind of a
950.579 -> pre-pandemic and then into the pandemic
953.279 -> for me I'll just be honest with a bit of
955.199 -> an avoidance technique and that I knew
958.139 -> he was in the throes of Parkinson's
960.6 -> which is a awful disease and I'm not
963.36 -> great at confronting inevitabilities
966.06 -> always but it's almost like it was this
968.76 -> journey for me to in my mid 50s kind of
972.839 -> like grow up and take responsibility for
976.5 -> framing how I had experienced my
979.62 -> childhood and now how I related to that
982.62 -> parent as he was kind of you know in the
986.579 -> last years of his life
988.199 -> YouTube met before
992.1 -> you mean Junior and I
996.54 -> yeah
998.579 -> yeah
999.44 -> we're getting to know each other
1002.3 -> I think anyone who sees senior it can be
1006.259 -> a tough watch but I would suggest that
1008.779 -> you find your way through it because
1010.639 -> there was a certain point where my dad
1012.259 -> made these very avant-garde movies and
1013.88 -> they didn't always even seem like they
1015.62 -> had a plot and we had amassed all this
1017.6 -> footage in senior and Susan came to me
1020.18 -> she said you can't make this documentary
1022.22 -> like one of your dad's movies this has
1023.959 -> to have an act on two and three I was
1025.52 -> like well what's act three
1028.1 -> and then act three wound up being his
1030.319 -> passing and US kind of figuring out a
1033.26 -> way to ingest that and make sense of it
1036.38 -> I don't know that there was any one part
1038.72 -> that was difficult when we started
1040.64 -> watching senior we saw it at the
1042.74 -> Telluride Film Festival we screened it
1045.14 -> in San Francisco at the same theater of
1047.36 -> the Castro where I had been with my dad
1049.46 -> you know when his films were coming out
1051.44 -> in the 70s and so for me it was more
1054.02 -> like I would be watching the film and it
1057.02 -> was the story of my life with him and
1059.059 -> and his death but it also wound up being
1062.419 -> this kind of thing of it brought me
1065.179 -> almost back to Chapman where you make
1067.16 -> art of your life and your life is kind
1069.679 -> of a movie but it's not it was this very
1071.72 -> surreal experience and then there was
1073.28 -> just the grieving part of it where and I
1075.679 -> think it's why some people say I wish
1077.179 -> I'd been able to do something like this
1079.039 -> for for one of my parents or a loved one
1081.5 -> is that it becomes this kind of
1083.36 -> Touchstone and it's a way to have a
1086.299 -> mechanism by which you can process a
1088.34 -> loss so it's I'm super fortunate to have
1091.82 -> it there and I think it'll be something
1093.14 -> that I I use as a kind of a you know you
1096.679 -> know a bit of a self-help tool for years
1099.559 -> to come I can't believe it
1102.799 -> oh here we are catch me up what do we
1105.74 -> know
1106.4 -> one of our b-29s over the North Pacific
1108.799 -> has detected radiation do we have the
1111.38 -> filter paper there's no doubt what this
1113.059 -> is White House sensors are down wishful
1115.76 -> thinking I'm afraid are those the long
1117.679 -> range detection filter papers
1120.1 -> Atomic test
1121.77 -> [Applause]
1123.28 -> [Music]
1124.72 -> the Russians have a bomb there's two
1127.22 -> Nolans there's the Nolan before you've
1129.14 -> worked for him where he's kind of this
1131.539 -> very distant Oz like figure he's just
1135.08 -> held as we all know in this very
1136.82 -> particular esteem because his Acumen and
1139.94 -> his his Mastery of this medium and then
1142.58 -> there's what happens as you approach and
1145.28 -> get into the system that he uses it's so
1149.9 -> hard to explain but he's a very very
1152.539 -> singular uh fella so even the screen
1156.08 -> tests felt important and not important
1160.28 -> enough for high status way there's just
1163.46 -> an energy and an intensity to what he
1165.44 -> does so and then take the subject matter
1167.36 -> and then the fact that he's asking me to
1169.94 -> kind of transform into someone who's
1172.1 -> extremely subtle and plotting who
1175.1 -> doesn't have any
1176.9 -> um punch lines
1178.539 -> whose only Charming when he's trying to
1182.5 -> manipulate or undermine and I found that
1185.78 -> to be a great Challenge and Chris Nolan
1188 -> had said he was likening it a bit to
1190.82 -> Amadeus where there's a Mozart and
1193.76 -> that's not you sometimes your Mozart
1195.919 -> usually your Mozart this time you're
1197.419 -> salieri and so I really took that
1200.299 -> um to heart as him kind of challenging
1202.4 -> the entirety of my career trajectory and
1206.419 -> saying don't use any of those things
1208.7 -> that have served you well find new
1211.1 -> resources and now the race is against
1213.32 -> the Soviets not unless we started Robert
1215.66 -> they just fired a starting gun what's
1219.5 -> the nature of the device that I've made
1221.059 -> data indicates it may have been a
1223.7 -> plutonium implosion device like the one
1225.919 -> you built at most
1228.02 -> there's something about straws that I
1230.24 -> find he's very conservative and very
1232.46 -> devoted and very much lived a life of
1234.5 -> service it reminds me a little bit of my
1237.02 -> grandfather who was a captain and did
1239.6 -> multiple tours in World War II and then
1241.34 -> came back and had a glass company and
1243.2 -> did all the glass for the Chrysler
1244.7 -> Building I mean those old American lives
1247.94 -> where you go like wow that was a really
1249.44 -> exceptional generation but I also know
1252.86 -> this thing of comparison of why don't I
1256.64 -> have what he or she or they have it's
1259.82 -> ugly
1260.6 -> and it's a preoccupation I think that is
1263.66 -> can be particular to a kind of American
1267.44 -> exceptionalism and so with all these
1270.08 -> forces that were at play during the Cold
1272.299 -> War it was great for me to have held
1276.559 -> this position of kind of a righteous
1278.72 -> indignation with what all these liberal
1281.059 -> Geniuses were up to in a way I felt like
1283.58 -> I got to be a Critic of what might be a
1286.82 -> perception of myself or others
1288.559 -> throughout the entirety of my career and
1291.08 -> so I got to do that Counterpoint it was
1293.299 -> almost like I was in a debate with the
1295.64 -> aspects of myself that I have glorified
1298.52 -> and I was able to look at each one of
1300.74 -> them and say that's not entirely right
1302.419 -> and maybe you don't deserve that and
1304.28 -> it's it's been a great dialogue and I
1306.5 -> have a feeling part of the reason Nolan
1308.419 -> wanted me to do this was to give me that
1310.76 -> kind of 180 perspective but I also at
1313.76 -> the end of the day I truly believe that
1316.64 -> Lewis dross did everything he did for
1320.24 -> reasons that he thought were correct and
1322.58 -> I don't mean that like a superhero bad
1325.4 -> guy I mean that legitimately as a human
1328.039 -> being so I find it really kind of
1330.14 -> fascinating that I'm still a little bit
1332.48 -> up in the air about who was uh on the
1335.6 -> right side of History
1337.46 -> it's like a currency the cultural
1339.86 -> significance of Cinema and films and TV
1342.38 -> and I think that part of my generation
1344.6 -> just like part of the Maverick
1346.1 -> generation part of it was kind of yeah
1348.26 -> this is nothing you know we're so cool
1350.539 -> we're really like dark and brooding and
1353 -> honestly it's a privilege
1355.28 -> it's a matter of precision and
1357.38 -> discipline and sacrifice to be able to
1359.179 -> do it correctly and I think that's been
1361.7 -> that's been the one lesson that I've
1363.94 -> over a long period of time been able to
1366.5 -> finally assimilate and accept
1368.54 -> [Music]
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE-8iTNMlro